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Shaq headed to Atlanta?

Posted on: July 14, 2010 12:12 pm
Edited on: July 14, 2010 12:17 pm
Posted by Royce Young

David Aldridge of reports through league sources that the Cavaliers and Hawks are discussing a deal involving Shaquille O'Neal and Marvin Williams.

The deal would be a sign-and-trade sending Shaq, now 38, to Atlanta for Williams, a promising tweener that just hasn't had it click yet. As Aldridge wisely points out, the move would line up with new coach Byron Scott's intent to play at a higher pace next season.

Another thing from Aldridge of interest: "Scott has already indicated that J.J. Hickson will be the full-time starter at power forward next season, and said during Tuesday's NBA TV Las Vegas Summer League game between the Cavaliers and the D-League Select Team that he is contemplating bringing veteran forward Antawn Jamison off the bench." Aldridge also mentions that Atlanta is interested in veterans Kurt Thomas and Brad Miller as well.

With the Hawks dishing out a bunch of money to Joe Johnson, the budget is tight. However, Atlanta has a trade exception worth about $3 million, when it agreed to a sign-and-trade deal that will send forward Josh Childress to Phoenix for a future draft pick. The Hawks can use that exception to get a player making that much money. Shaq made $20 million last season in the final year of his contract but obviously knows he's going to have to take a paycut to keep playing.

But for the Cavs, life goes on after LeBron. Filling his void with Marvin Williams surely won't sooth the pain from LeBron's departure, but it's something for Cleveland to get for Shaq. The Cavs have been busy, inking guard Kyle Lowry to an offer sheet late Tuesday . However, indications are that Houston intends to match.

But all that is not what's important here. What's the nickname going to be if Shaq goes south? The Big ATL? Shaqlanta? These are the answers we really need.


Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2010 10:56 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

I think this is a great move for Atlanta.  We don't have any big guys playing center.  (Not including Zaza)  I think Shaq would be a great addition to the Hawks.

Since: Apr 11, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2010 10:28 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

Send Shaq to San Antonio?  That would be so ironic.  We'd get to see Popovich whine about other teams using the Hack-A-Shaq against him...definitely entertaining!

Since: Sep 15, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2010 6:13 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

If this happens I might stop being a Hawks fan.  Seriously Rick?  Trading Marvin Williams for Shaq?  At least send them Bibby and get Mo Williams out of the deal.
At this point I'll take Mo Williams over Bibby.  Thanks but no thanks.  I think with Mo Williams actually playing his real position for the Cavs now that he will turn a few heads. I am not saying he will be top five in the league obviously, but he will actually be playing point guard and dictating the offensive flow whichh he was not allowed to do with LeBron James in town.  I like Marvin Williams to a point.  His contract is reasonable it seems and now the Cavs actually have a coach who will be able to improve his players' games.  At 24, Williams is poised to be able to get major minutes and take that next step under the right management style.  It would be more than worth the gamble for the Cavs to do this deal.  I think the Hawks would be smart to do it as well since he is doing nothing but getting seemingly spot duty.   Shaq would be a big minutes guy against teams with tough bigs.   It is a win-win for both teams as Shaq I believe has something to prove this year.

Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: July 14, 2010 5:42 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

Having been a fan of both teams (I died with the '89 Cavs in Game 5 against the Bulls after suffering miserably watching them during the Ted Stepien years, moved to Atlanta that summer and have been a Hawks fan since), all I can say from the Hawks point of view is DON'T DO IT!!!!
I know the Hawks need a back to the basket presence in the worst way to take some pressure off of Al Horford, and I know Marvin gets a lot of grief from Hawks fans (he has underachieved relative to his status as the #2 overall pick to Bogut - ahead of Deron Williams and Chris Paul - UGH!), but Shaq is DONE.  He has done nothing but clog up the offenses of the last two teams he played for. Look how much better and free flowing Phoenix got after Shaq left (from a 42 win nonplayoff team to a 54 win Western Conference finalist).  Cleveland, on the other hand, went from a 66 win, Eastern Conference finalist, to 61 win Eastern Conference semi-finalist after adding Shaq, which sounds like a step back to me.  He's old, he still a liability late in games, and he cannot run up and down the floor, which is one of the few actual strengths of the current Hawks.  
I know Marvin has his detractors in Atlanta, but he has an extremely affordable long-term contract, he has long arms and a wide base, and the craziest thing of all, he's actually a pretty good match-up defender - he gives Lebron James and Carmelo Anthony the most trouble of any of the Hawks assigned to guard those two guys when they play, particularly in Atlanta.
The Hawks have nothing to gain from this trade except taking Marvin's salary off their books - but Marvin's a relative bargain as is.  If I were the Hawks front office, I'd be trying to get a PG for Marvin, before trying to get a C (and a sideshow) clearly on his last legs.  

Since: Jul 12, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2010 5:04 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

Wow, what are you thinking? At this point in Shaq's career, you think he can run up and down in GS's run and gun system? Look at their personnel and their recent moves (nice moves BTW - Larry Riley deserves props). They're running, and they're going to score. The future is looking brighter for Golden State, so the last thing they need is a big old lug who's going to sloooow things down and be hurt half the season. 

Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2010 4:54 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

Unfortunately Howard isn't the ONLLY person he'll be asked to play against.  If the supposedly best player in teh fNBA, James, couldn't make O'Neil play to the expectations that come with his enormous salary, what makes anyone think that Joe Johnson can.  I don't believe they are on the same playing field.  SO'N has been a joke since he left the Lakers, a part time player that occasionally likes to see his stupid dinks on the ESPN highlights, but where was he when Phoenix and the Cavs really needed him?  No where to be seen, and that's exactly where he'll be in a Hawks uniform.

Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2010 4:24 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

I always thought that the big guy would end up in Newark, the place of his birth for his last years.

Since: Nov 1, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2010 4:24 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?


Since: Jun 24, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2010 3:42 pm

Shaquille in the ATL

There's more than meets the eye to this trade. Firstly, Williams has never blossomed off the bench for Atlanta and he recently got a multi-year deal. Partially because he's playing behind Josh Smith and partially because he doesn't have the jumpshot necessary to be a focal point of an offense. Still, he'd be a nice talent and get the chance to play more in Cleveland and he's only 24.

Shaq on the other hand doesn't fit Atlanta's athlete heavy offense (J.Johnson, Smith, Al Horford) and he really hurts any kind of transition offense at this point in his career. He'd have to play behind Horford because Horford is far better at Center and not strong enough to play against Power Forwards like Bosh, Garnett, Bosh and Amare. Honestly Shaquille might just be a guy who Atlanta is hoping puts people in the seats. He'd only be there for a year so if they want to get rid of Williams multi-year deal then I suppose it makes some sense.

Since: Jan 14, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2010 3:35 pm

Shaq headed to Atlanta?

I've got to agree with you on at least 2 points;
The Hawks have the WORST management in professional sports today - all the way back to the insipid Pete Babcock and his cast of idiots, they have repeatedly mismanaged, abused and tortured the personnel on this team with stupid draft picks, piss-poor trades, and lunatic coaching selections. One has to wonder - what is the real agenda with this team? I guess making the playoffs is seen as good enough. It really makes you miss the glory days of 'Nique, Doc, Whit, Tree, Battle, Carr, etc. Anyway bringing Shaq to the squad won't be a death blow to the Haks, he may even improve the low post game as they could afford to deal a few of the many SFs that are buffing the pine, and let Horford go to his real position at PF.
Second - you nailed it with you assessment of Josh Smith - he is strictly AND 1 tour material, the NBA version of Friday the 13th. This guy guards no one, looks to dunk on every play (wheter he's under the goal or 30 feet out), and shoots worst than Manute Bol (RIP). Get rid of this charlatan and get some players while you can !

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