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MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

Posted on: October 20, 2010 12:27 pm
Edited on: October 20, 2010 12:28 pm
 
Melo talks swinging towards New York, away from New Jersey. Posted by Matt Moore

So the season starts in a week, and Melo is still a Nugget. Will he stay there?

After our own Ken Berger reported last week that the Nuggets remain intent on moving him, there's word picking up that the Knicks may be getting back into the talks. Chris Sheridan reports that the Knicks are trying to work out a deal to move either Danilo Gallinari or Anthony Randolph to acquire a player that the Nuggets have more of an interest in. It's a curious report, in that you'd think that either A. Denver would be satisfied with a young forward with either shooting prowess or considerable athleticism, or if they did want one of those moved for an asset, it would be a draft pick they'd be shopping for. 

New York's pick this season was held by Utah due to the last of Isiah Thomas' genius maneuvers. In trying to clear space to bring in one of the Big 3 free agents, the Knicks obtained Tracy McGrady's expring contract from Houston. In return, they had to agree to a pick swap this year and to give Houston its 2012 pick as well. Teams are restricted from trading consecutive first rounders. 

If the Nuggets move Anthony, they'll be in a rebuilding mode. And while acquiring good players is good for the ticket sales, it's draft picks and movable assets that will help them get back into contention through a rebuilding process. 

It's still hard to see a scenario in which the Knicks can get back into this thing, unless the Nuggets are beginning to relent to Melo's pressure to move him, and move him where he wants. 

There are numerous reports that the Derrick Favors angle that would send Anthony to New Jersey is dead, based off of both the Nuggets and Nets backing off. Favors looked good in the second half against New York last night, after a dreadful preseason, so both sides have reasons to walk away from the deal. 

After seeing the Knicks in preseason, it would actually be kind of unfortunate to see Anthony wind up in New York at the cost of their young nucleus. Randolph and Gallinari provide a nice balance to each other's games, Stoudemire looks every bit the superstar they signed him to be, and Timofey Mozgov looks like a promising center prospect. Even Raymond Felton looked like the guard they need him to be for the first time last night. Adding Melo would give them a second superstar and a major scoring threat, but would also damage their flexibility and versatility, things which are important in Mike D'Antoni's system. 

We'll have to see if the Knicks feel they have to strike while the iron is hot or not. 
Comments

Since: Oct 20, 2010
Posted on: October 25, 2010 1:50 pm
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

You keep repeating 'undersized big man' and '3pt shooter' I get it. I doubt you have seen them play much but that doesn't matter a lot of people paid to analyze and write about the NBA share the same opinion as me (Hollinger, Simmons, Broussard, etc.). I'm not saying either will be the go-to-guy, but they will be very good complementary pieces that are crucial to any team. Also it's just not them two in the trade, which I'd be fine with. Denver is asking for 4-5 players + Picks, a KG type deal, which I dont agree with seeing as Melo is a pending FA. Igoudala-Melo? HAHAHA, I'm the one smoking crack?! He's a one trick pony with an overvalued contract.
The Knicks have a lot of leverage because Melo wants to go to the Knicks/Bulls, not the Nets, who finished with 12 wins and STILL play in empty arena in Newark (almost as terrible of a city as Philadelphia). No team will trade Denver for him without being assured that he will sign an extension. The closer it gets to July 1, the more leverage the Knicks have, that's not debatable. Especially when Gallo, Randolph, and the other young guns are lighting it up!
Lastly Illusion, you're a Philly fan, you should know better to talk about any other fans, when your city has by far and away the worst fans in the the United States, and maybe the world.



Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: October 21, 2010 4:30 pm
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

Just because the Nets are moving to Brooklyn doesn't change the fact that they're the Nets. I'm from Brooklyn and I've grown up a knick fan, just because a team is moving to Brooklyn, I'm not going to change my allegiance and become a Nets fan. It's just stupid.

Who's telling you to change your team?



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2010 3:05 pm
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

Just because the Nets are moving to Brooklyn doesn't change the fact that they're the Nets. I'm from Brooklyn and I've grown up a knick fan, just because a team is moving to Brooklyn, I'm not going to change my allegiance and become a Nets fan. It's just stupid.




Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: October 21, 2010 3:01 pm
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

typical Knicks fan? We're the best fans in the league and the team hasn't been good in 10 years.
I said typical Knick fan, because you guys manage to shoot yourselves in the foot. You have a chance at a top five player and you're talking about, "we shouldn't give up Gallinari and Randolph" for Carmelo. Are you serious? That's what I meant by typical Knick fan, you don't know a good thing even if it slaps you in the face.

You're talking about players who are 21, 22 respectively I wouldnt be so quick to write them off.


Who's writing them off? They're role players at best, you got a three point shooter with no defense and an undersized big man, they are "NOT" superstars. 21 and 22 respectively? Melo is only 26, TWENTY FRIGGIN SIX! He still has a lot of great years ahead of him. You have to be on crack, to not like this trade. Who cares if you gut the team, you build around Melo and Amare through the draft and free agency, CP3 already stated he'd go where Melo goes, but I guess Galli and Randolph are too important. Pff, you guys don't deserve him, I hope we trade Igoudala for Melo.

Bottom Line: The Knicks have leverage, not the Nuggets, trading half the team is not worth it when he can sign for free July 1. He'll come and accept the challenge, he's not Lebron.

LMAO, how do you guys have leverage? They trade Melo to NJ and you guys are screwed, you honestly think the Nuggets are gonna let him get to free agency without getting anything for him? You're crazy, he's getting traded, to whom is the question. I just hope the Knicks front office thinks like you do and you don't get him, then NJ moves to Brooklyn in two years with Melo, CP3 and Lopez to become the best team in NY. Good luck with Galli and Randolph, LOL!




Since: Oct 20, 2010
Posted on: October 21, 2010 12:20 pm
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

typical Knicks fan? We're the best fans in the league and the team hasn't been good in 10 years. We finally cleaned house after the mess Isiah and Scott Layden made and are now the youngest team in the league. You're talking about players who are 21, 22 respectively I wouldnt be so quick to write them off. I love Melo always have, I am dying to see him in a Knicks uniform, but labeling him unselfish is plain wrong. Bottom Line: The Knicks have leverage, not the Nuggets, trading half the team is not worth it when he can sign for free July 1. He'll come and accept the challenge, he's not Lebron.



Since: Jun 27, 2009
Posted on: October 21, 2010 12:18 pm
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

Giving up those players shouldnt even be given a second thought. Melo is a proven star in the league. You can always find role players. Knick fans have suffered long  enough.  Trading proven for unproven players I do that trade every day of the week.



Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: October 21, 2010 11:30 am
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

People have an interest to get Melo to go to their team we get it. 
Lets simplfy things for you guys.
Knicks have crap to give Denver.
Other teams have more.
Melo wants to play in NY (if we believe all reports).
He will sign an extension with Knicks, but will he with other teams.
If he does, trade to another team may happen.
If not, no one is going to give up picks for him without an extension.
If that the case, Denver holds him for a year and get nothing, or
take crap from Knicks.
Its pretty simple, will he sign an extension with someone else?
If yes, see above, if no, see above.
Everything else is irrelevant.


Agreed, I think he'll sign an extension with the Nets, besides they'll be in NY in two years (Brooklyn). Chris Paul has said he'd follow where Melo goes, so NJ might be looking pretty damned good, another super team?



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2010 9:20 am
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

People have an interest to get Melo to go to their team we get it. 
Lets simplfy things for you guys.
Knicks have crap to give Denver.
Other teams have more.
Melo wants to play in NY (if we believe all reports).
He will sign an extension with Knicks, but will he with other teams.
If he does, trade to another team may happen.
If not, no one is going to give up picks for him without an extension.
If that the case, Denver holds him for a year and get nothing, or
take crap from Knicks.
Its pretty simple, will he sign an extension with someone else?
If yes, see above, if no, see above.
Everything else is irrelevant.




Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2010 7:22 am
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

I'm wondering how Knicks would feel if Carmelo would go to the Bulls (a team he is interested in) and CP3 goes to the Magic a team he is interested in after his contract is up.... while I want players to come to New Orleans, its highly unlikely. Carmelo has openened up to playing with the Nets (another NY team and Chicago) while Paul wants to play with great players, and if Carmelo goes to the Bulls, he isn't playing with him, the Magic look like the team that he would go too. The shift of power would really go to the east then. Rose Carmelo Deng Boozer Noah.  Magic would have Paul  Carter (if they resign him could go a different route) Pietrus Lewis (if they resign him) they will save over 30 million by letting the two walk and resigning them to cheaper deals. And Howard at Center... who knows what the Magic would look like... Honestly Knicks fans went through this with Lebron/Wade and Bosh... don't go through it again.



Since: Dec 27, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2010 11:52 pm
 

MeloDrama Update: Knicks back in the act?

You're either 12 yrs old or a 40 yr old virgin, what his wife wants has alot to do with what will happen. Melo's first choice is NY, his last choice is Chicago. Stoudamire is better than any player Chicago has. Chicago hasn't done sh!t since Jordan retired, it's rebuilding time for both orgs. You just mad...



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