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George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

Posted on: November 3, 2010 2:57 pm
Edited on: August 14, 2011 8:25 pm
 
Denver Nuggets coach George Karl, who has battled cancer, responds to alleged cancer-related trash talk by Boston Celtics forward Kevin Garnett, togeorge-karl Detroit Pistons forward Charlie Villanueva. Posted by Ben Golliver Denver Nuggets head coach George Karl has been through a lot this year. Karl was diagnosed with throat cancer and underwent grueling treatment for the disease that forced him from the bench during the stretch run and the playoffs.  The details of his treatment, as documented by ESPN's Rick Reilly, who shadowed Karl for a day, are incredibly difficult to read.
With only three of his torturous six weeks of treatment done, and the inside of his mouth looking like he just took 100 bites out of a lava-hot pizza slice, and his head throbbing and his eyes hollow, Karl looks like a guy who should be on a stretcher, not an NBA bench.
"George, this is only going to get harder," a nurse tells him. "You're not going to feel like working." Clearly, she's never met George Karl.
Suddenly, the huge gray machine whirs like a giant Transformer, turning sideways, first this side, then that, as though it's trying to decide how to eat him. Then it zaps his throat and neck lymph nodes, ravaging them. It gives him a radish-red rash that's covering his face, chest and back. I know. He shows me. He shows me many things I don't want to see. He's doing it because he wants people to know exactly what it's like. Wants to take the fear and mystery out of it for people.
While Karl had trouble speaking and watched his Nuggets bomb out in the first round of the playoffs to the Utah Jazz, he maintained his commitment to returning to the bench throughout the summer, and he made it back. His Nuggets currently sit at 2-1 and, while embroiled by Carmelo Anthony's ongoing drama, things could be a lot worse.
That brings us to Tuesday night, when Detroit Pistons forward Charlie Villanueva posted a number of messages on Twitter, stating that Boston Celtics forward Kevin Garnett called him a "cancer patient" during Tuesday night's game between the Pistons and the Celtics. Villanueva suffers from a condition called alopecia universalis, which has rendered him hairless. Alopecia is not cancer, so Villanueva's baldness is no more similar to someone who has undergone radiation treatments than it is to someone that simply has male pattern baldness. Clearly, Garnett's alleged statement was not only medically inaccurate, it was also way over the line of common decency, even by NBA trash talking standards. You probably wouldn't be surprised at the level of vitriol during heated exchanges on the hardwood -- it's astonishing how many claims are made regarding opponents interacting sexually with other people's mothers -- but there are limits. Racist comments, references to the Holocaust and cancer or other life-threatening disease talk are rightfully still off-limits, even given the competitive, charged atmosphere of an NBA game.  The NBA existence isn't like everyday "real life," but it's not completely divorced from reality either. And that goes for the pain of cancer, given that just about everyone has either dealt with the disease personally or through a family member or friend. In that vein, Benjamin Hochman of the Denver Post sought Karl's response to Garnett's taunts today. Here's what Karl had to say. 
“My initial response is – it’s disappointing and crossing the line. I don’t know if cancer is an epidemic in our country, but we accept it as a problem and it’s a very dangerous part of life for everybody. Making fun of it, that’s part of (some people’s) sarcastic side of trash talk. … Sometimes, responsibility comes from knowing when to argue when not to – when to cross the line and when not to cross the line. So philosophically, if Kevin and I were close friends, I’d probably call him up and say, ‘I don’t think that’s right (what you said).’ But I also believe that competition makes us do things when we don’t have our total mental morality in line. We act like children at times, even coaches.”
While a generally accepted code of silence among NBA players (what happens on the court, stays on the court) was broken by Villanueva, his online outburst is understandable. As for Garnett?  There's no defending his alleged statements, not as an attempt to gain a competitive edge, not as "just part of the game."  On this one, Garnett is not pushing the envelope like he has many times during his career, he's way off the ethical cliff. And it shouldn't take a phone call from Karl to help him understand that.
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I understand the offensiveness of the alleged remarks of KG being that I have lost my Sister, Father and currently in a fight with my brother and Mother to this horrible disease. I also have played ball at a high level where I've heard a lot worse than that. Look although there are limits, if it doesn't cross racial boundaries it’s all part of competition. You have to be mentally tough, sports are 90% mental 10% talent… When you get to that level you know what’s said on the court, or for that matter is done on the court, stays on the court... When friends battle competitively there are worse things said, than to a stranger, I can promise you that. I can name bout 5-10 individuals that nobody ever says anything bad about, have on pedestals, that are Hall of Famers, that I've personally heard say worse (Some of it to me)! Bottom line is if he said it, yeah, it was distasteful, nobody's going to argue that, but if Villanueva had a problem with it, he should have manned up and said something to him then. Any real man would have, not cried about it on Twitter to his fans, cause he knows (Right or wrong) they'll side with him.... Everyone’s right, we know KG talks crap (Most of it to himself to get hyped up), but we nothing about Villanueva, maybe he's trying the poor man’s Dennis Rodman attempt to become someone in the NBA, any publicity is good… Or perhaps all he heard was the word Cancer, it happens all the time. That’s why what’s said on the court stays there, because while you’re fighting with someone on the hardwood you hear bits and pieces of everything. Besides nobody has backed his claim, but someone has backed KG’s. Just throwing that out there cause everyone’s so quick to judge…





Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: November 4, 2010 6:21 pm
 

Rodman?

Good thing Twitter didn't exist when Rodman was in the league. MAN!

People should forget about this and move on. Trash talking gets out of line sometimes - that's trash talking, that's competition. Forget about it! And Villanueva should chill and let it go.



Since: Dec 24, 2007
Posted on: November 4, 2010 11:54 am
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

All this crap about "getting into the head" of your opponent is a lotta garbage. It used to be merely stupid. Now it's shockingly distasteful. As with everything, talking trash has degenerated into such a level of juvenility. Whatever happen to respect for the opponent and gentlemanly behavior in public? It's naieve to think we'll ever get back to civilized behavior on our high-level athletic fields. How are they ever going to enforce it? And it's too bad. I long for the time when they'd simply shut up and play the game. P.S. -- I think George Karl is about the coolest coach in sports. Good health to you, George.



Since: Nov 16, 2009
Posted on: November 3, 2010 5:03 pm
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

As if we needed any more proof on the complete awfulness of Kevin Garnett.



Since: Jul 30, 2009
Posted on: November 3, 2010 4:52 pm
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

TD44 there are limits and control people have to display. 
As Rome says "There is nothing funny about cancer"  you can add kids to that list too. 
Play Shaq in a pick up game and call him some racial slurs and see if he buys your arguement.



Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: November 3, 2010 4:38 pm
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

But I also believe that competition makes us do things when we don’t have our total mental morality in line. We act like children at times, even coaches.” Well said George. You don't think George Karl said a few choice words in his playing days?  Think Again.



Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: November 3, 2010 4:13 pm
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

garnett has always been known as a bully, never ever stepping up to someone of signifigance, but this is a new low, what a piece of sh*t he is...



Since: Jul 30, 2009
Posted on: November 3, 2010 4:10 pm
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

The guy is a dead beat father and waste of skin.  He'll end up blowing all his money, catch AIDS and die alone.




Since: Sep 2, 2009
Posted on: November 3, 2010 4:07 pm
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

Dumb comment..Tenntony2



Since: Sep 2, 2009
Posted on: November 3, 2010 4:04 pm
 

George Karl addresses Kevin Garnett's cancer talk

What do you expect he's a no class Detroit Piston!


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