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What do the new Magic rotations look like?

Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:04 pm
Edited on: December 19, 2010 1:05 am
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A look at the Orlando Magic after their trade for Gilbert Arenas, Hedo Turkoglu and Jason Richardson. Posted by Matt Moore

Well.

That got out of hand, fast.

The Orlando Magic completely turned around their rotation today with the addition of Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu and Gilbert Arenas (sorry Earl Clark). But on a team with this many options, how are these rotations going to work out? Let's take a look. First, where are they at with each position? There's no way of knowing how SVG will formulate his starting lineup, so they're considered liquid.

Point guard

Starter: Jameer Nelson
Reserves: Gilbert Arenas (combo-guard), Chris Duhon, J.J. Redick (in a pinch, combo-guard), Jason Williams

Nelson has played at a near All-Star level the past three seasons. With Carter off the grid, Nelson could benefit. Arenas can play shooting guard, but in reality, he plays with the ball in his hands. He deferred to John Wall in Washington, but it didn't work well. As a back-up point guard, he's going to dramatically improve the Magic's scoring potential in the bench unit.

Shooting guard

Starter: Jason Richardson/Gilbert Arenas/Quentin Richardson
Reserves: Jason Richardson/Gilbert Arenas/Quentin Richardson, J.J. Redick

Redick may be a trade asset now. J-Rich can play the three, but he's really a shooting guard. Arenas can play the two, but is really a point guard. Quentin Richardson is just a wing. Redick provides great insurance for the two-spot, but that's a pricy policy.

Small forward

Starter: Jason Richardson/Hedo Turkoglu/Quentin Richardson
Reserves: Jason Richardson, Quentin Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu

Hedo can play the four, but he'll likely spend some time at small forward. Quentin Richardson may actually wind up the starter here with J-Rich at the shooting guard and Brandon Bass or Turkoglu at the four. The Magic are pretty short at the three after this move, with Pietrus gone.

Power forward

Starter: Brandon Bass/Hedo Turkoglu
Reserves: Brandon Bass/Hedo Turkoglu, Ryan Anderson, Malik Allen

Anderson hasn't been as good as he needed to be this season to make a leap, while Bass has been better than expected. It's hard to see Turkoglu taking Bass' place, but given his familarity with the offense, it's conceivable. Meanwhile, Malik Allen has another duty....

Center

Starter: Dwight Howard
Reserves: Malik Allen, Daniel Orton

That's it. That's all they've got to back up Howard. Which means when Howard sits or gets in foul trouble, the Magic will have to go small. This could wind up as a good thing in the end.

Lineups

Nelson - Richardson - Richardson - Bass - Howard

If we're talking the actual best players available, this has to be it. Quentin Richardson is no star, but he doesn't have to be with the firepower the Magic now pack. It's a more traditional lineup with Bass at power forward, but with Nelson as the primary creator and Richardson geared as the finishing point, it could work.

A reserve unit could look like this:

Arenas - Redick - Turkoglu - Anderson - Bass

It's a strange big-small combo with Turkoglu at the three, but it could work with Arenas as the primary creator and shooters stocking the floor. Unfortunately, they'll get rebounded into oblivion.

Another starting unit option for SVG:

Nelson - Arenas - J. Richardson - Turkoglu - Howard

Arenas as a shooting guard is problematic, but it may be a dual combo-guard set up with Nelson and Arenas both working with the ball. I've never been sold on Turkoglu as a power forward, but he did play minutes in Orlando before. This lineup likely has the best scoring potential, and has Turkoglu as the fourth scoring option. Which is probably for the best.

The lesson here is that SVG has the same depth he had before, but now his frontcourt gets considerably smaller and more shallow. To put it simply: Howard has to stay out of foul trouble.

If Arenas can create and score to his potential and if Turkoglu regains his magic (sorry for the pun) under Van Gundy, Orlando could take a step forward -- that is, back to elite status in the East. Does that make the Magic better than Boston or Miami?

That's a whole other question.
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Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2010 8:19 pm
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

there starting lineup should be: Jameer Nelson, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkaglu, and then Dwight Howard.



Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2010 8:19 pm
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

there starting lineup should be: Jameer Nelson, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkaglu, and then Dwight Howard.



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2010 7:39 pm
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

IMO I would go with the lineup below:

PG:  Gilbert Arenas
SG:  Jason Richardson
SF:  Hedo Turkoglu
PF:  Brandon Bass
C:   Dwight Howard

The Magic should also look to acquire another front court player to increase their lack of depth at this position.  With the Trail Blazers recent misfortunes they're probably more willing to trade a player such as Marcus Camby who would help solidify the major weakness of this Magic team.  As a former Defensive player of the year Camby would have an immediate impact and could be called upon to play either alongside Howard or be used in a reserve role. 



Since: May 1, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2010 12:28 pm
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

The best starting line-up I see is Nelson, Arenas, J. Richardson, Bass, Howard. This gives Orlando a better defensive pressence up front with Howard, Bass, and J. Rich, with Turk coming off the bench at SF and PF. J. Richardson also has a good inside game and SF should be a good fit for him at 6'6" with the option of dropping him to SG when needed. Orlando's backcourt gets even stronger keeping Nelson at the point and having Arenas starting at SG. If the two can play well together their skills can compliment eachother and provide two passing options to the frontcourt. This leaves Reddick coming off the bench at SG, with the option of dropping Arenas down to PG.

Reserves would be Duhon, Reddick, Q. Richardson, Turkoglu, Anderson. That's my take, good luck Orlando!




Since: May 1, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2010 12:26 pm
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

The best starting line-up I see is Nelson, Arenas, J. Richardson, Bass, Howard. This gives Orlando a better defensive pressence up front with Howard, Bass, and J. Rich, with Turk coming off the bench at SF and PF. J. Richardson also has a good inside game and SF should be a good fit for him at 6'6" with the option of dropping him to SG when needed. Orlando's backcourt gets even stronger keeping Nelson at the point and having Arenas starting at SG. If the two can play well together their skills can compliment eachother and provide two passing options to the frontcourt. This leaves Reddick coming off the bench at SG, with the option of dropping Arenas down to PG.

Reserves would be Duhon, Reddick, Q. Richardson, Turkoglu, Anderson. That's my take, good luck Orlando!




Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2010 11:50 am
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

Q should be on the bench. Bass should be starting at the 4. Jason Richardson in my opinion should be at the 2 with Redick coming off the bench for him. Ryan Anderson and Bass sharing minutes. Turk at the 3. No question about that. I figure Nelson will be traded sooner rather than later. I just don't like the idea of having Arenas play at the 2. If they play LA who is gonna guard Kobe? Arenas can't guard Kobe. I figure one more trade will be made before the deadline. I at least hope so.




Since: Apr 10, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2010 8:24 am
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

agree



Since: Sep 6, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2010 3:15 am
 

What do the new Magic rotations look like?

If Orlando uses any of the lineups listed above, they will get ran right out of the gym. I would play gilbert arenas, J Rich, Turk, Bass and Dwight as my sarters. Turk would play the point forward position just like he did when Orlando played in their last trip to the finals. JJ Redick is the sixth man. I would attempt to trade Jameer Nelson for a big man because Orlando is a team that lacks size depth.



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