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Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

Posted on: July 7, 2011 10:31 am
Edited on: July 7, 2011 2:45 pm
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Posted by Matt Moore and Ben Golliver. deron-williams

Update (2:43 p.m.): Ken Berger throws some water on the fun, citing an agent with connections in Turkey who says "I'll believe it when I see it."

Update (11:00 a.m.)
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 ESPN.com reported Thursday that "sources with knowledge of Deron Williams' plans confirm his intent to play for Besiktas in Turkey if lockout continues."

Original Post:
A Turkish television station is reporting Thursday that Besiktas, a Turkish professional basketball team, has an agreement in principle with Deron Williams to play for them during the lockout.  

Yowza.

Williams, who is under contract for 2011-2012 with the New Jersey Nets, would have to obtain FIBA clearance before heading to Istanbul. A source informed Ken Berger of CBSSports.com Thursday morning that the Nets had not been made aware of any such offer. That does not preclude such an offer from having been made, just that the Nets aren't aware of such an offer, though you would think they'd have some idea of the legitimacy if things were this far along. 

Williams heading overseas would be the kind of substantial move from an All-Star that could actually put the fear of God into ownership. If a wide enough swath of players are able to make decent money overseas during the lockout, that kind of takes the bite out of the lockout, the entire point of this ridiculous power play. Essentially, the owners' ability to starve the union out would be mitigated, even with lesser players unlikely to be offered similar contracts. If enough players can find ways to create income and keep the union's position strong, the owners lose their biggest power position.

The flip side is that Deron Williams is playing in Turkey, though I'm sure Istanbul is very nice. With a wife and new daughter, that can be draining in terms of travel, though probably not moreso than the normal amount of travel he does during the course of the NBA season. Additionally, television reports of this nature are often sketchy and it wouldn't be the first time an international team has leaked information about a possible signing of a major American player before the chickens were hatched. We'd advise a healthy dose of skepticism here. 

Williams would join Allen Iverson among point guards labeled (under false pretenses or not) coach killers who have played in Turkey for Besiktas. FIBA has not released an official statement regarding their plans for clearance during the lockout.  

(HT: IamaGM.com)
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Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: July 9, 2011 2:07 pm
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

Saw it , been to Istanbul, they have really great Italian bread in 1993 when in the merchant marines a loaf 6 inches wide 5 inches high and over 25 inches long with sesame seeds was .25 cents. Anyway great city remember this was the Christian Byzantine Empire the center of the World as far a Christianity is concerned until the Muslims tricked them and took over the Empire , beautiful city was in Ishmir too.That placve had a prositute compound that had prostitutes that were incarcarated and made in to a little red light district with small streets and brick buildings each one had a prostitute with small 8-12 wide room by about 35 feet long they lived there and every time they ran atrick , It went wowards the amount they owed the local magestrate for the crime they commited , basically they were sold in prostitution until they paid back what they stole or the crime that they commited was fullfilled with prostitution money , this is what I was told, they had a guard gate they took your Wallet liscence , and held it until you came back . It was surreal,m Most Young Merchant Marines know about the counpound!!!!!!!




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 11:14 pm
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

 Now the NBA is in a lockout which means all contracts are void, which means owners are basically telling their players you know that guarantee money I owe you, you're not getting it, oh and each check you miss while the lockout is in effect you're not getting that either.  They can do that because of the lockout.  So if Deron Williams gets injured while this lockout is still in effect yes he will get whatever money is still owed him. 

Oh no he won't, you're wrong.  Why? Because his contract is not void during the lockout like you said it is, it's just delayed.  When a new CBA is signed the owners are obligated to take the players back and pay them according to their previous agreement minus any paycut their union agrees to for the new CBA if any.   If the contract was void then all players would become UFA's .... that's not the case. 



Since: Jun 15, 2011
Posted on: July 8, 2011 9:20 pm
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

guess this shows the two parts are pretty far apart in negotiations



Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 3:51 pm
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

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Give me one good reason why the team wouldn't honor the contract?  We all know if the NBA didn't have this lockout and any NBA player went overseas over the summer to play basketball and got a career ending injury; it's in his contract the team wouldn't be responsible for the injury or the money owed to that player.  Now the NBA is in a lockout which means all contracts are void, which means owners are basically telling their players you know that guarantee money I owe you, you're not getting it, oh and each check you miss while the lockout is in effect you're not getting that either.  They can do that because of the lockout.  So if Deron Williams gets injured while this lockout is still in effect yes he will get whatever money is still owed him.  He did not valid his contract because his contract was void by the owners.  Now would the owners want to give that money up if that happens I doubt it but what can they do this lockout is a double edge sword.  Cause if the Superstars get injured during this lockout the owners are screwed.  No one goes to NBA games to see the backup play, they want to see their team featuring their superstar play.  Like I said before if it's not in his contract which is voided at the moment, that if he sustain a career injury in this lockout he won't get pay, than the owners will be the ones on the hook.



Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 1:37 pm
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

Good bye and have fun..... aren't the Nets actaully a step down from the Turkish team...



Since: Apr 19, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 12:33 pm
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

Who cares



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 10:15 am
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

Like the article says getting a few stars that head to play in other basketball leagues may help loosen the hard line that owners will take in negotiation.  

As I already mentioned, what the writer said is flat out stupid.  The NBA isn't afraid of players going overseas, not one bit.  If the league was PROFITING the NBA would obviously worry because every day the players aren't playing costs the money.  But when 23 teams are losing money nobody cares if there is no season... they SAVE MONEY for every day the players are out. 



Since: Mar 21, 2010
Posted on: July 8, 2011 9:52 am
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

Do it man.  I wouldn't mind seeing the NBA collapse.  With the NFL lockout going, fans don't have much sympathy or patience for either side right now.  Without fans, both of these leagues would die and players would be in the same boat as most americans; struggling to make ends meet.

So go ahead and have your lock out you rich, fat azzez.  I don't care if there is no NBA season next year or for the next 50 years and I'm sure a lot of fans feel the same way.  If you don't like the deal, sell your team.  Ricky Rubio should stay in Europe.  The only guys I feel bad for are the new draft picks.

Anybody want to launch a new league with me owned by the fans?
Awesome 5-star worthy comments Fuzznutz. I am so sick of hearing the word "Lockout" when it is being applied to professional sports. It is the ultimate spit in the face of the fans from which the owners draw billions of dollars in revenues and the players receive millions of dollars in compensation. Without the fans neither side gets dime one and unfortunately they (the owners and players) seem to forget this.

If the fans collectively said we are going to "Lockout" the National Basketball Association or the National Football League those leagues would more than likely die a swift death. It would then be fun to see what the owners and players do with themselves with the good times coming to a crashing halt.









Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 8:38 am
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

thats the problem nba contracts are guaranteed.  hence the lockout



Since: Oct 6, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 1:54 am
 

Reports: Deron Williams headed to Turkey

I would love to see Deron head out to Turkey to play there.  Like the article says getting a few stars that head to play in other basketball leagues may help loosen the hard line that owners will take in negotiation. 

Players will be in jeopardy of getting hurt and impacting their possible earnings in the NBA.  From some of the items that I have read on this lockout it would not be a shock to see a long one though.  So having this type of trump card to play would really help the players out.


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