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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 28, 2012 7:12 pm

Draft is over and we took 1 damn WR who is 5'9". Terrible! My impulsive draft grade for the Browns is a C-
bfs
SinceApr 25, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 28, 2012 7:16 pm

This has been a gawd awful thread today....I may be done in the DPL.  To many richards trying to pee on our parade.
TOPDAWG
SinceOct 12, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 28, 2012 7:42 pm

All in all, not so bad.  Not so sure about the DT from Cinci, but aside from that in Heckert we trust.

Kinda like the fullback from Alabama, has got to be better then Owen?

Well, now, lets put on the pads and see what we got.  When does that happen? 
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 28, 2012 7:55 pm

   I was commenting toward the moron that is called 'top dog'.... You will NOT beat Baltimore and Pittsburgh at their own game...How many years has that been proven?  This is what the Browns have done in futility ever since the post-Kosar years.
  
   How many 'great' receivers have the Browns had since returning in 1999?  Connect the dots of no offense to no receivers, it's really not that hard...  

  What teams have had the MOST success against them---New England...What does New England do THROW more than run....In fact, a few years ago, New England threw like 20 times in a row to start the game against Pittsburgh, and won easily..
  
  With Hillis, everyone thought we can just run, run, run...Now we have Richardson, people think the same...I just don't see much of a difference...Perhaps Richardson is faster, but not a tougher runner.. Hillis was also an excellent reciever in the open field...So I don't see this as a great improvement--WITHOUT RECEIVERS.....
  
  The one playoff game with Kelly Holcomb in the 90's against Pittsburgh, the Browns threw all over the place, got a big lead, then went into a shell trying to ESTABLISH THE RUN---and they lost...It really hasn't changed.  

  These coaches have all the tactical imagination of World War 1 trench warfare.  You put Baltimore and Pittsburgh away by throwing first....I saw Houston go to the hurry up on a few years ago against Baltimore, and they made up a bunch of points, and Baltimore had no answers....If you disagree, show me the stats to prove otherwise... 

 

 
NFLrealist
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 28, 2012 9:11 pm

So w Weeden as a rookie starter teams wont b keying on T Rich?  Cmon this draft was a joke taking DL, FB and OL after round 3.  They took guys that will b backups in rounds where u need to plug holes when ur as bad as the Browns.
showstopper101
SinceMay 4, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 28, 2012 11:02 pm

MikeLurie:  I like the way you put everything in order.  

NFL Realist:  I understand your point on some things, but you come
accross so negitive about the Browns.   All of us do at times, but your new here
and I for one don't know how to take you.  I resent the fact you called Top Dawg a
Moron.   People don't always agree in here, but we don't call people names.  TD is
well respected in this lounge and insulting statements like yours will not be looked upon
lightly.   

All in all I believe the Browns did in fact improve their roster.  I know I complained
a lot about the 3rd round pick and all, and I did wish they would have drafted a top
notch WR, but they got really good value with their later picks in my opinion.   I realize the
Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals also improved in this draft also, but I believe the Browns
are closer to all three of these teams now then they were before, even without drafting a Top WR.

MikeLurie's posts probably summed up the Browns thinking in regards to the WR situation. 
He is probably right, they maybe were looking to draft Kendal Wright with their 22nd pick, but
Tennessee picked him just ahead of the Browns, so they decided to pick Weeden in Round #1, instead
of taking a chance of him being gone in Round #2.   Then they took a chance in thinking Ruben
Randel would maybe be there in Round #3, and just missed (N.Y. Giants grabbing him with the last pick
in Round #2).  Maybe they should have picked Randel in Round #2 instead of first drafting a Tackle. 
But maybe they were afraid the best Tackles would be gone.  I don't know.  I do believe they wanted
Randle in Round #3 because as soon as the Ginats picked him the Browns traded down 20 spots.
Would have, could have, opportunity gained is opportunity lost and vice-versa.   All-in-all I believe
the Browns had a good draft.   Only time will tell.   
DaveysDawgs
SinceMay 11, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 28, 2012 11:22 pm

don't sweat it davey....and I'm sorry I jumped you for the negative post earlier....I'm an emotional Browns fan.  And i hate the negativity...that's all.   It's a Saturday night, and I'm sitting here with my kids talkin about how the Browns could wind up at 10-6 this year...lol!  I love what they did.....And you watch.....I'll come up with a scenario that has them somehow in the playoffs....I always do...








I understand guys.....I really do..  This franchise has ruined us as a fan base.....



To all those who understood my rants in regards to upgrading the QB.....CHEERS!!!  It's a new day....


and to the ones who doubted me....Tongue out
TOPDAWG
SinceOct 12, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 1:37 am

Browns wont win 5 games.....u dont win in the NFL when rookies will b getting the ball 80-90% of the time and ur division cleaned up in the draft.
showstopper101
SinceMay 4, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 3:08 am

Looking at the draft as a whole I like what they did. Maybe been spiking the kool aid to feel that way but I got my reasons. Here are a few for what they are worth (which isn't much). Trich. Love it all the way. With the buccs dropping out of 5 then jumping back into the 1st for a RB I think he was their target all along. If heckert didn't move trich would be in Tampa right now. As far as helping the passing game goes Troy p and Ed Reed will be keeping one eye on him every snap. It'll keep them honest. And does no one remember Hillis tended to fumble AND they had to call a players meeting to try and screw his head on straight? Yah the Chiefs can have him. Weeden. I was shocked and disappointed to see his name. But thinking about it i felt that way because of what it meant for colt. I wanted to believe and hope he could get it done despite all the opinions to thr contrary. H&H obviously decided he couldn't do it either, time to move on. If weeden was 22 he would have gone top 15 or even 10, so we got a seniors discount. But if his arm is that good teams can't just dare him to beat them over the top cause he will be able to. Schwartz. Sp? Has anyone noticed the depth chart behind Thomas? This guy is comfortable at r or L tackle. Nice! Bonus. Hughes. Can't defend what I consider reach but the kid from Boise was second rnd rated and we got him in the what 6th or 7th? So that's a wash as far as value goes. But with those two picks we hopefully improve the run d. The guard was good value and cb was a project In a late round so not bad. If the Lb's pan out we just got younger there. Everyone is upset about wr with only a late round flyer but we did lots to address it without a direct draft pick. A real threat at rb, a qb that can make all the throws and an oline that should give the qb more time. All that adds up to making the wr jobs a whole lot easier. They don't have to be better to have more success. Remade offense along with a D stronger against the run. It's what we all wanted. Course they have to prove it on the field but on paper I think heckert did a good job. Now if you will excuse me I have to get back to my kool aid.
dawggin
SinceAug 12, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 3:12 am

Dangit! I put I paragraphs when I typed it honest!
dawggin
SinceAug 12, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 7:43 am

Looks like they signed a lot of undrafted FA too...  What are they gonna do with all these rookies?
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 10:07 am

Cleveland Browns
Josh Cooper, WR, Oklahoma State
Jermaine Saffold, WR, Missouri St
Andrew Sweat, LB, Ohio State
Matt Cleveland, OT, Idaho
Antwuan Reed, CB, Pitt
J.B. Shugarts, OT, Ohio State
William Green, DE, Florida
Tashaun Gipson, S, Wyoming
Garth Gerhart, OL, Arizona State
Bert Reed, WR, Florida State
Emanuel Davis, CB, East Carolina
Mike Allen, CB, James Madison





some of these guys a shot at sticking . espcially the WR since the Browns only drafted one ???

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 10:09 am

Dangit! I put I paragraphs when I typed it honest!


cBS formatting strikes again
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 10:27 am

. if you dont have a favorite team listed to me your either a troll or a bandwagon turd or maybe some tool who just likes to stir chit up .after back reading from yesterday i kinda expected the negative ones to come out of the closest . they always do around draft day .opening day . best bet is to just incgnore them as hard as it may be . all they bring to the table is negativity .
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 10:29 am

2012 NFL Undrafted Free Agents



thats a link to all the undrafted free agents . it is updated reguarly

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 10:53 am

CLEVELAND -- Browns President Mike Holmgren disputed a report that the Browns got fooled into trading up to No. 3 with the Vikings to draft Trent Richardson.

 Mike Freeman of cbsports.com reported Friday that several team executives told him the Vikings were bluffing in regards to multiple teams trying to trade up to No. 3 to draft the Alabama running back.

 Freeman reported that the Browns were the only team to buy the fake, giving up  fourth, fifth and seventh-round picks to move up one spot.

 "Contrary to what was written and said yesterday, we had to compete,'' said Holmgren. "We weren’t the Lone Ranger in that deal.''

Vikings general manager Rick Spielman told ESPN Friday morning that multiple teams were after the pick, even hours before the draft.

But Holmgren also stressed that he urged general manager Tom Heckert and coach Pat Shurmur not to let Richardson slip away.

 "You don’t want to be up there, really,'' he said. "But we were up there so it was very, very important who we chose there. That’s why we targeted Trent. We didn’t want to lose him.

 “My conversations with Pat and Tom were 'if you even think somebody is going to is jump us, then what are we going to do to prevent that from happening? We had that conversation many, many times – how far were we willing to go to do this? Tom did a masterful job of setting that thing up. I thought it was an excellent trade because we got the player who, Lord willing, stay healthy and all those things, is going to be a really fine player for us for a long time.''

 Later, when asked if he had a larger role in this draft, Holmgren hinted that he did step in on the Vikings trade, without specifically naming it.

 "I won’t tell you exactly what it’s about, but this is typical of what might happen,'' he said. "I said, ‘Tom, do you want to do this?’ He said, ‘I don’t think I do. I think it’s too much or too strong or whatever.’ I said, ‘well, we might have to.’ And he goes, ‘well, if we have to, then you’ve got to tell me, because I won’t do it.’ And I said, ‘OK, then I might have to tell you. Fine.'''

 He said all's well that ends well.

 "But that’s a healthy way to go about it,'' Holmgren said. "No one’s strangling anybody or pushing anybody and we talked about that, and Pat’s kind of the peacemaker in the group. We all have our moments, but it’s real healthy and I trust them a lot.”

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

April 29, 2012 10:53 am

CLEVELAND -- Browns President Mike Holmgren disputed a report that the Browns got fooled into trading up to No. 3 with the Vikings to draft Trent Richardson.

 Mike Freeman of cbsports.com reported Friday that several team executives told him the Vikings were bluffing in regards to multiple teams trying to trade up to No. 3 to draft the Alabama running back.

 Freeman reported that the Browns were the only team to buy the fake, giving up  fourth, fifth and seventh-round picks to move up one spot.

 "Contrary to what was written and said yesterday, we had to compete,'' said Holmgren. "We weren’t the Lone Ranger in that deal.''

Vikings general manager Rick Spielman told ESPN Friday morning that multiple teams were after the pick, even hours before the draft.

But Holmgren also stressed that he urged general manager Tom Heckert and coach Pat Shurmur not to let Richardson slip away.

 "You don’t want to be up there, really,'' he said. "But we were up there so it was very, very important who we chose there. That’s why we targeted Trent. We didn’t want to lose him.

 “My conversations with Pat and Tom were 'if you even think somebody is going to is jump us, then what are we going to do to prevent that from happening? We had that conversation many, many times – how far were we willing to go to do this? Tom did a masterful job of setting that thing up. I thought it was an excellent trade because we got the player who, Lord willing, stay healthy and all those things, is going to be a really fine player for us for a long time.''

 Later, when asked if he had a larger role in this draft, Holmgren hinted that he did step in on the Vikings trade, without specifically naming it.

 "I won’t tell you exactly what it’s about, but this is typical of what might happen,'' he said. "I said, ‘Tom, do you want to do this?’ He said, ‘I don’t think I do. I think it’s too much or too strong or whatever.’ I said, ‘well, we might have to.’ And he goes, ‘well, if we have to, then you’ve got to tell me, because I won’t do it.’ And I said, ‘OK, then I might have to tell you. Fine.'''

 He said all's well that ends well.

 "But that’s a healthy way to go about it,'' Holmgren said. "No one’s strangling anybody or pushing anybody and we talked about that, and Pat’s kind of the peacemaker in the group. We all have our moments, but it’s real healthy and I trust them a lot.”

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007