So this one is just for you Catfish, both Michael Pare films from the 80's that my wife and I were talking about: Streets of Fire or Eddie and the Cruisers
wow hawk, i am stunned. not only have i seen both movies multiple times, but i know who michael pare is! streets of fire has its moments and features a young bill paxton, myleti williamson (bubba gump), willem dafoe and a young, little chubby diane lane. the music at the beginning and end is great too, but it doesn't compare to the music and story of eddie and the cruisers. being a philly guy, the "jersey shore" they went too was the real jersey shore, not the jersey shore of snooki, pauly d and the stupidilation. back then like springsteen in asbury park, nj it was poor kids and bands looking to break in the music business and when they didn't, they played the jersey shore bar scene. the music is great featured by a springsteen cloned voice of john cafferty and the beaver brown band. they wanted springsteen but was busy, so he told them about cafferty. now the ending is retarded with joe pantoliano and the car and the tapes thing, but the rest of the movie is great. film critic roger ebert says he was disappointed by the ending but liked the movie.
streets of fire B-
eddie and the cruisers A+
and how the songs were written by the tom berenger's character of tom ridgeway were very creative. his one song on the top of that shore house became their biggest hit when eddie (pare) changed how it was sung, but not the lyrics.
"eddie, what's with you, the kid can't play, can't sing and can't write - so what's not bad?"
hawk-for years i tried to find eddie and the cruisers on vhs when vhs was popular and they didn't have it. then they released it as a special tape and i got it. when it's on cable, i watch it. classic.
I have seen both movies, but not for years...I don't know about today's jersey shore kids but have heard of snooki, so you lost me there. I do recall really liking Eddie and the Cruisers and forgot about Streets of Fire. We were trying to recall what both were about and I remembered Eddie was about the music and such. I do remember they made the return of eddie or something like that and saw it, not as good of course, but have to take your advice.
I had no recollection of that being Diane Lane in the movie for SoF though, just been too long, see both are on DVD now so might have to see if some place local has them or just try ebay. I remember the Dan Hartman song though, that's what brought it all up in that Dan was a white guy but they had a black act on stage for it and then which movie was it in and all that was our discussion. I miss the 80's.
come on hawk! diane lane(huge crush on her in the early 80's with the outsiders and streets of fire) was ellen aim the singer. she was michael pare's girlfriend back in the day. she's the local girl who made it out of that dump as a singer. when she came back to sing for her own people, willem dafoe's gang rushed the stage and kidnapped her. one call goes out to michael pare' and he rescues her quickly and saves the day. come on. i don't know who the hell dan hartman is but her manager was played by rick moranis of spaceballs, little Giants and my cousin vinny fame. the black act was the guys whose bus pare stole to get them out of the battery (willem dafoe's neighborhood.) they are a struggling act and at the end they sing they own song and then join in on ellen aim's song.
eddie and the cruisers is about this east coast band playing the jersey shore circuit. at tony mart's bar where they are going to sing, they meet a young kid (tom berenger) who cleans up the place. well, he has a huge influence on eddie (michael pare) and writes a ton of songs for them. his biggest is one on the rooftop of their shore house. now their manager, joe pantoliano, swears he can't play, can't sing and can't write as he sings this tune. eddie says he has the words of music and puts his tune to rock and roll and is a mega hit. the tune - on the dark side.
later-due to this book by arthur rambou or some french loon, their next album is vastly different then their first album. the studio hates it and won't give them their money. eddie says "i want something great, something no one has ever done before." sal, the bassist says "we're not great, we're just some guys from jersey!" eddie says "if we're not great, then there's no sense in ever making music again." he leaves and drives his car off a bridge, only to fake his death and live life outside of their music. however their music 20 yrs later has a resurgence and sends ellen barkin to interview members of the band, who are now working stiffs. she wants the lost tapes of the album that the studio hated. the ending credits plays one of the songs. as this documentary is playing on tv and when it ends, eddie, with a beard is watching it, so he is alive. his old manager gets the tapes by crank calling his old girlfriend and will do it his way and bring back the cruisers and this lost album.
da-tah. i just saved you 10 bucks at blockbuster. send me a check.
rok-nice. yeah it was a great shot. still don't know if his game is back, but a win is a win. i hope he can contend at the us open. i hate some of these schleps playing now. and mcelroy misses another cut. haha. so much for him being #1.
Catfish, thanks for refreshing my memories there, you are the movie man. Did you ever see the second Eddie movie?
Not really into golfing, haven't played in a dozen years even, clubs just sit in the basement gathering dust and spider webs, no biggie I guess. Going through a summer of clutter cleaning and seeing what we need/want and donating the rest and trying to drown some worms here and there.
HAWK-when they announced the all century team, they announced mike schmidt as the greatest 3b of all time! enough said.
3 league mvps 1 world series mvp 1 world series multiple hr titles 8+ gold gloves 548 hrs and played at the vet. if played at citizens bank park - over 600. his underhand whip throw to 1b on a bunt changed how 3b played the line.
now if you ask my older brother Jim Catfish, he said Schmidt never got a key hit when the Phillies needed it. Now I think he's a hater, but he saw him play in his prime when I was a little kid.
brett 3 batting titles 1 world series title multiple gold gloves 3000 hits 1 pine tar incident
NOT EVEN CLOSE IT'S SCHMIDT!
now although i dislike both of them...carlton fisk or the late gary carter..?
that's a tough one, I give the lean to Fisk, while both were good backstops, Fisk had the more "media worthy" career from my memory His HR in the 75 Series alone trumps any big hit Carter ever had, but Carter was good and steady. Fisk played in the AL, Carter in the NL. I think for a catcher, the AL is harder cause you don't get that break to call only fastballs when a pitcher comes to bat, although today's pitchers are harder to get out it seems.
That is just my gut reaction to the pair, didn't look up any stats or anything, will let others chime in.
how about this one...Jeter vs Ripken...I know it isn't the same era, but as SS go, Ripken was the amazing precursor for Jeter. To me, both are high quality guys and HOF guys. Ripken didn't get to play with as good of teams as Jeter of course so when you get to post season you can't compare. It's a tough one, this might actually be a tie.